30 Jun
2004
30 Jun
'04
12:29 p.m.
the
"lower layer" is at least just as important as the "higher stuff".
imagine a car without an engine? what good would be for?
for many things, maybe, but not for driving, right?
Then you don't know how people buy cars. Most people will first think
about the size. If they have 3 kids, they will not buy a Smart or an
Audi TT. After they have found the right size and model, they will
choose the engine. Normally every manufacturer has some choice between
diesel and several petrol engines.
..... i
wouldn't recommend suse to anyone, i, hate suse.
I basically agree with you on this topic. But we should all try to get a
bit more tolerant. This attitude doesn't help the Linux community at
all. If we want that all the banks offer a internet banking solution
that runs under Linux, we will need a user base as large as possible, no
matter if the users runs SuSE or not!!! The distro just isn't important
to this degree. What counts is the fact that the users uses standard
compliant browsers and so on. If BGL, CCPL, BCEE and so on runs on SuSE,
it will automatically also run on Gentoo. *Please*, never forget this
basic fact. On this level, I can only say: Any distro will be a good
choice. You know what: If I would have the choice to work for
two employers: one
that uses a Windows firewall and one that uses a SuSE firewall, I would
take the second one immediately. I could replace the SuSE firewall
overnight to a Gentoo firewall by telling the boss that the firewall
needed an important security update recently. Same with a SuSE webserver
that uses PHP or perls scripts. But what would you do with an IIS server
which uses ASP programs? Then you would have to change the *envionment*,
which would have a much larger impact to the users than just changing
the OS.
What I already told before: changing a database server is a breeze as
long you change the OS and *not* the database product.
no question, i would go the same way as you did.
i'm open to new stuff, and i can live with what my boss tells me to do or work
with. but i would try to convince him to better stuff if available and
possible.
I had no argument *against* you. I just told why I
dont't like pure
network based installs. I thought Gentoo was mainly network based,
because I didn't find ISOs for Gentoo with contain a complete
distrobution that contains all the common tools and apps. I saw only the
choice between stage 1, stage 2 and stage 3 installs which all needed a
network connection at some point.
there are iso's available with grp's on them. which means binary packages.
those contain a full base system (x, kde, gnome, ... )
gentoo is a
community project, not a company project.
to keep gentoo alive is easier than to keep a distro like suse alive.
with gentoo there would be forks....with suse there would be migrations.
There already are community projects which have been given up. It's far more plausible than you think. Look at
OSS cryptographic tools
which you couldn't be downloaded from US servers. You know why OpenBSD
is based in Canada? OpenBSD was the first major free BSD (the other are
FreeBSD and NetBSD) which contained cryptographic software. This was
only possibly because Theo Raadt lives in Canada!
i wouldn't compare that to the sco case.
sco never had a chance, and they are on the way to close their doors.
so this is not very plausible.
If nobody knows that I am using the software package
at home, nobody
will come except burglars!!!
i maybe thought a bit too paranoid....
but things happen....
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regards,
Georges Toth