17 Apr
2004
17 Apr
'04
10:52 a.m.
Jay Christnach a écrit :
Ah yes, this sounds logic. I will install wget
manually (download via
ftp and rpm -i).
Check first if it's missing.
I don't know much about rpm, how does it compare
to deb?
I have installed a debian only once. Thus I can't compare.
Would apt be better on package management than yast ?
I would say that on a RPM-based system such as Suse, it would be better
to follow the RPM path... RPM updates a installation database, so if you
install packages an another way, you will probably have difficulties in
the future. Yast is not a replacement for RPM: it is just a more
intuitive interface running the same RPM command in the background.
Dependencies check are provided by RPM, not Yast.
Is there a way to tell rpm to automatically solve
dependencies?
(haven't found such a thing in the man) That's why I want to use a
tool like yast, because quite often there is a chain reaction and one
has to install/upgrade many packages.
If you install packages coming from the Suse 8.1 CDs, such a chain is
not likely to happen, especially if you just want to add some feature,
not a whole system such as the graphical user interface. The RPM
produces error messages providing the list of required packages. It is
not difficult then to install the required RPM first. I don't really see
the problem here. I could even assist you on-line if you have
difficulties, but once again, if you wish to use Yast (which is easier
and more intuitive than plain text rpm commands), you can as soon as you
put on-line (on a ftp server as example) the images of the Suse 8.1 CDs.
I thing this is the easiest way.
By the way, the company I'm working for is providing services based on
Suse Linux, we have the CD images on our ftp server (not anonymously
available from the Internet) and the competences to help you. If you
send me your mail address, I will ship you a demo CD called "Rencontrer
Plan-Net" that will provide you plently of information about us. It's
risk-free.
I don't have the time right now to try it, but
I'll try to install
wget first and if yast is still not working I will switch to apt4rpm
(found a howto on the net). I like that simple apt-get install package
command which I know from debian.
Please use only rpm packages that are on the Suse 8.1 CDs. They are
supposed to work properly together. We already had once to install a
Suse 9.0 package on a Suse 8.2 installation, and the consequences are heavy.
I want to avoid everything which involves replacing
packages from the
base system. Therefore I don't want to upgrade the whole system.
What new features do you really want to install ?
This is a production system and if we lose the network
connection for
some reason (e.g. having to reboot and the system doesn't come up
again), we probably will have complaining customers and we do have to
ask for a manual intervention from the isp (netline.lu). (many $s and
takes time during which the webpages will be offline).
Plan-Net is currently installing a new web hosting center. We might
provide you a dedicated Suse Linux-based computer, with 24h a day
physical access and also maintenance services provided by us at
reasonable price. Call me once at office if you are interested:
+352-26.56.02.22
I think I will find the time to check this out in a
few days, I'll
keep you informed.
Thanks all for your kind interventions.
Jay
Brent Frère wrote:
>
> Dear,
>
> If I remeber right, the YaST in Suse 8.1 fails because the wget
> package is missing in some configurations. I had this twice and it
> prevented me at least to run YOU (YaST On-line Update) properly.
>
> I found this by looking in the YaST logs, in /var/log/YaST2/*.log
>
> As far as I know, YaST does not provide more dependency checks than
> RPM command. It's just a graphical tool making the work easier.
>
> I think this should help you.
>
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